Diary Of A Madman REMASTER Question

Is the remaster of Diary really as bad as the customers on amazon are saying?
I understand that Daisly and Kerslake's parts were replaced/rerecorded but does it sound ok? I read one reviewer say that Randy's guitar was lower in the mix than before yet another reviewer claimed it has a richer more full tone. Anyone here have opinions on this?

Here is the amazon link:


  • i think it sounds great
  • Just get the 1995 remasters with the dark green swirly pattern around the cover. Thats got the best sound and it still has BD & LK

    Tony Iommi = God, his arch angels are Ozzy Osbourne, Dave Walker, Ronnie James Dio, Ian Gillan, Dave Donato, Glenn Hughes, Ray Gillen, Tony Martin, and Bill Ward (bassically everyone who sang on a song labeled Black Sabbath)
  • No, it is nowhere near as bad as they say on amazon. In fact, I like it better than the original. The sound quality is much louder, clearer, and better than the older versions. Randy sounds better than ever; it really brings out his guitar. As for the drum and bass re-recordings, I think that they give songs like "You Can't Kill Rock and Roll" a heavier, more powerful sound. The people on Amazon do not like it because they are unwilling to accept change and think that it is a crime for Ozzy to change a classic album. My question is this: Whose name is on the album cover? Does it say "Bob Daisley and Lee Kerslake featuring Ozzy Osbourne?" No. It says OZZY OSBOURNE. It is his album and he can do whatever the fuck he wants with it and if you like the old versions better and hate the new versions, so what? Ozzy is not making you sell your old copies and buy the new ones. Keep your original copy and don't buy the new one if you don't like it. That is just my opinion and I own all previous versions of all of the albums, including the original 80's cd's, the 95 remasters, the original vinyls, and the re-recorded 2002 remasters.
  • The 2002 edition doesn't sound bad. I agree Ozzy has the right to do whatever he wants with his work. I perfer the original remaster and would purches that one if I had to choose between the two. But if you don't mind haveing the worked over edetion the sound is just fine.
  • It was a huge bitch slap to Bob and Lee though, I mean Bob contributed and every album until DTE. Wrote a bunch of the lyrics. Bob kept comming back despite trying to trick people by have Sarzo and shit on DOAM.

    Tony Iommi = God, his arch angels are Ozzy Osbourne, Dave Walker, Ronnie James Dio, Ian Gillan, Dave Donato, Glenn Hughes, Ray Gillen, Tony Martin, and Bill Ward (bassically everyone who sang on a song labeled Black Sabbath)
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    I agree with Delores Rhoads on this one... even ignoring the fact that it's a huge slap in the face to Kerslake and especially Daisley (who was crucial to Ozzy's solo career), Randy was not around to make any creative decisions on how these remasters sound.

    And yes, it's not like he's asking fans to sell their old copies... but what about us newer, post-2002 fans???
  • With all due respect,It's crap. It's as simple as that. It's because sometimes you can't or don't want to get mad at the idocy for actually even thinking to do this to your own album. True, it comes down to a choice between listening to this shit or actually hearing the album the way it was originally recorded... "You Can't Kill Rock And Roll" fades out too quick on the 2002 remaster and also - this is weird to say, as I'm sure it was difficult enough being Robert Trujillo and Mike Bordin having to re-do the backing tracks to 'Blizzard' and 'Diary' , but it's visibly sloppy during "YCKRAR". Got rid of that copy of the album quick. Had to. Didn't matter. I already had the 95 remaster. (this was before they put the stickers saying that the bass and drum performances were rerecorded).
  • I don't understand why people (Delores Rhoads included) would say that it hurts Randy's legacy or that Randy wasn't there to agree with the decision. They didn't take Randy off the albums; he's still there and sounding better than ever. Why the fuck would Randy care if they took off the fuckin bass and drum players? That doesn't affect him. Even if Randy were still alive, my original statement still stands, they are OZZY'S albums, not Randy's, not Lee Kerslake's, and not Bob Daisley's, regardless of their contributions. Ozzy owns his albums and he can do whatever the fuck he wants with them regardless of whether or not the other artists like it. Furthermore, if Daisley wrote as many of the lyrics he claims to have, why is he not making million selling albums today and writing great songs like the songs on those albums? Why did Daisley continue to play with Ozzy all those years if he wasn't getting paid? Why didn't he quit?
  • Initially he was getting paid for his duties, but there were certain things he wasn't getting paid for. From what I have read it wasn't until the late 90s that Daisley and Kerslake weren't getting paid for their work and because Sharon is a pissy bitch for revenge when talk came about remastering the decision was made to re-record the bass and drums from thosed albums. The reason the suit didn't involve the other albums Daisley contributed to (which he did a fair ammount) was because by that time he was a session bassist/writer, i.e. a one time payment. But for BOO & DOAM they were part of the band and had a different deal setup.

    But if Bob wasn't very good why did Ozzy keep offereing him the job? The guy has been involved in 7 out of the 9 studio albums Ozzy has done. He even played bass on the two Bill Ward tracks Ozzy sang on. I have no doubt Daisley wrote most if not all lyrics for a while. When Ozzy was in Sabbath he was used to Geezer writting the lyrics. In the early days they would work together and bounce ideas off eachother but by the end Ozzy left it all up to Geezer. I'm sure Ozzy has ideas, so great ones, but he ust isn't much of a lyricist.

    But back to Randy, when the band was writting the music it came from vibes and insppirations from everyone. They were a band and in a band like that the guitarist and bassist need to work off eachother.

    Tony Iommi = God, his arch angels are Ozzy Osbourne, Dave Walker, Ronnie James Dio, Ian Gillan, Dave Donato, Glenn Hughes, Ray Gillen, Tony Martin, and Bill Ward (bassically everyone who sang on a song labeled Black Sabbath)
  • Oh, Tony Iommy and Glenn Huges is one of my favorites rock-projects! The Spell - is so beautiful song!("Fused"-album)
  • Remastering the "Blizzard of Ozz and Diary of a Madman" was Ozzy's true Ultimate Sin!! These are the 2 greatest albums in the World, that did make music history! Randy would not of let this happen! I got riped off buying those terrible remasters! "Little Dolls made my knees go weak!" Terrible drumming!! Must admit the bass lines were pretty darn close, but.... Take my advise Sharon-put the mates back on!
    From Joe Lalonde (Fan and Friend of Bob Daisley)
  • Well I bought it recently and it sounds amazing.
  • I am with ozzyjohn, buy the dark green swirly patterned ones. They kick much ass!

    "Being sober on a bus is, like, totally different than being drunk on a bus." - Ozzy Osbourne
  • I have a question. I have a 2002 japanese edition of Blizzard of Ozz. Does that still replace the drums and bass or does it keep the original? Because i honestly notice no difference.
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